Fund/Build/Scale

Episode 7 | Communicating your vision with May Habib (CEO, Writer) and Gaurav Misra (CEO, Captions)

Successful entrepreneurs must translate their personal visions into something tangible enough to attract employees, investors, and eventually, customers. 
There are best practices for product management and software pricing, but how do you make yourself persuasive (and authentic) enough to convince someone else to risk their time and money on your idea?
I interviewed May Habib (CEO and co-founder, Writer) and Gaurav Misra (CEO and co-founder, Captions) to learn how they use a mix of hard and soft skills to maintain a clear and strategic vision that informs everything from recruiting to GTM strategy. 
We also discussed methods for finding investors who understand your space, building a team, and why “rarely is the first idea the right idea.”
Here’s a full episode breakdown:
Part 1: May Habib, CEO and co-founder, Writer
"This was going to be just a much more interesting product." [03:27]
Writer's original founding "team is pretty together from early days." [5:45]
"In 2020, I don't remember spending a lot of time on the AI behind the AI." [6:11]
When May recognized that she’d connected with investors who shared her vision [8:30]
"The benefit of the full-stack approach is really becoming pretty obvious for people who are spending time with enterprise customers." [12:11]
"I don't see myself as a storyteller, I see myself as decent at picking up signal from noise and explaining that to people." [13:03]
"I do care a lot about design, about brand.... it's always been a very visual company." [16:07]
"If I was just meeting somebody, they got a slightly different deck in the first meeting." [19:06]
"Even ‘til the Series A, I think I looked down on people who were active on LinkedIn." [20:03]
"I think enterprises are getting fatigued." [23:01]
"If it's AI, show, don't tell, because the capabilities are so wild that you can really blow people away." [26:42]
Part 2: Gaurav Misra, CEO and co-founder, Captions
"We want to come up with a lot of different ideas in this space and what gets us excited." [33:32]
"We talked to a lot of people to help solve that creation problem that we were trying to go after." [36:34]
Why social media is "a really good way to actually test startup ideas" [38:20]
Investors were enthusiastic about shifting strategy, but "the hard part was to convince yourself." [39:55]
"It's really important to have an investor who understands the space inside and out." [41:29]
"The hardest part has been, what do we actually want to do, and what did we see actually working?" [44:35]
"I don't think of myself as a natural storyteller. I think it's something that I had to learn a little bit more of." [47:00]
Why Gaurav is still Caption's 'chief storyteller'" [49:42]
The importance of aligning your overall vision with PMF [51:16]
"As the company grows, the vision does become more and more crystal clear" [52:10]
"Once people try the alternate solution, they should never want to go back to the original." [54:30]

Fund/Build/Scale mini-episode | From seed stage to Series A with Coalesce CEO Armon Petrossian [Part 2]

In part two, Armon explained why he initially resisted investor advice to raise a Series A and spoke frankly about the challenges involved with stepping up into a leadership role, which led to some interesting talk about overcoming impostor syndrome, something a lot of us can relate to.
Part 2:
show Series A investors market opportunities you've already validated [1:51]
focusing on enterprise sales from the beginning was a winning strategy [3:40]
"we had an enterprise sales option straight from the beginning' [5:21]
why he hired a full-time salesperson as soon as Coalesce exited stealth [6:52]
how he connected with co-founder Satish Jayanthi [7:22]
coping with imposter syndrome and overcoming the pressure to perform [12:18]
raising a larger Series A than planned led to better outcomes [14:23]
avoid talking to investors until you're ready to raise — then move fast [16:51]
candid advice for anyone who's interviewing with an early-stage AI startup [18:55

Fund/Build/Scale mini-episode | From seed stage to Series A with Coalesce CEO Armon Petrossian [Part 1]

I interviewed Coalesce CEO and co-founder Armon Petrossian in February 2024 to talk about his company's journey from seed stage to Series A. I had no idea he was already working on his next round: just a few weeks after we recorded this interview, Coalesce announced a $50M Series B.
To help me prepare, his team shared their slightly redacted Series A pitch deck, which was immensely helpful. I'd intended to make this a mini-episode, but there was so much here, I decided to break it up into two parts.
Part 1:
why building in stealth was the right call for Coalesce [1:39]
guiding principles for who should — and should not — build in stealth [4:22]
how to manage customer discovery without revealing too much [6:50]
why they used their seed round "to build out the team as quickly as possible" [10:12]
midway through 2022, fundraising dynamics "changed radically" [11:33]
when investors pushed for a Series A, "I was like, that's crazy" [13:05]
starting up in San Francisco when you don't have industry connections [15:52]

Episode 6 | AI compliance and regulation with Laura Bisesto of Nextdoor

I interviewed Laura Bisesto (global head of policy and privacy at Nextdoor) in January 2024 to get her advice for AI startups that are just starting out. We talked about compliance, how to recognize when you need in-house help, and the overall importance of planning for worst case scenarios.
She also had some thoughts for rolling out new AI-powered features, creating user advisory boards, and navigating a patchwork of state, federal and international laws.
Here’s a breakdown of our conversation:
“You don’t have to be an ethicist to start an AI ethics program..” (2:44)
don’t wait for lawyers: work on safety and trust from Day 1 (4:44)
how Nextdoor developed and launched its generative AI principles (7:21)
evaluate and reduce risk before rolling out AI-powered features (9:05)
why product teams should oversee risk management (10:54)
"the regulatory environment is evolving" (12:25)
the Biden administration's October 2023 executive order on AI (15:04)
how to position your startup for compliance with future regulation (18:32)
trickery and a lack of transparency can lead to expensive mistakes (22:22)
be careful when sharing user data between different jurisdictions (23:45)
the most common trust, safety and compliance mistakes AI founders make (25:23)
Fund/Build/Scale is sponsored by Mayfield and Securiti.

Episode 5 | Breaking into enterprise sales with Maria Latushkin (GVP of Technology and Engineering, Albertsons) and Jack Berkowitz (CDO, Securiti)

For episode 5, I interviewed Maria Latushkin, GVP of Technology and Engineering at Albertsons, the second-largest grocery chain in America, and Jack Berkowitz, Chief Data Officer at Securiti (previously with ADP), to get their insider's perspective on how enterprise-level customers buy software and services from AI startups.
 
The most surprising thing I learned came early in the chat: spinning up a pilot program or a partnership creates tangible risks for enterprise customers, which means they can only afford to work with a few startups at a time.
 
Maria and Jack each have startup experience, but their time as C-level execs inside public companies gives them a unique perspective on breaking into enterprise sales. 
 
In this episode, we'll talk about sales strategies, navigating the procurement process, how to run a proof of concept or pilot program, and other essential topics.
 
Here’s a full breakdown:
 
The challenges and rewards of being an early-stage company's first customer (3:00)
What one former Fortune 250 software buyer thinks about your GTM strategy (5:52)
How to keep the whale you landed from pulling your boat under (7:33)
What it looks like when a pilot, POC or partnership goes south (8:49)
Customer discovery: “you can talk to me, but don’t sell to me.” (10:55)
Enterprise software buyers already know your tech isn’t “bulletproof” (12:59)
Red flag: don’t talk to customers like they’re investors! (14:21)
“How can I get that domain expertise before I show up to that buyer?” (16:56)
Partnerships, intellectual property, and procurement for AI startups (20:23)
Turning a pilot program into a long-term contract (23:26)
Proof of concept, opportunity costs, land-and-expand strategies (27:09)
Managing pilot programs and prioritizing one-off feature requests (29:18)
Common mistakes founders make while spinning up their sales motion (31:33)
How success fee agreements work (35:50)
 
For my next episode, I spoke to Laura Bisesto, global head of policy and privacy at Nextdoor. 
 
We talked about the regulatory landscape facing AI startups in 2024, and how small companies should start the work of developing their own ethical frameworks. We got into how to recognize when you need legal help, recapped some data governance best practices, and also talked about why it's so important to create a buttoned-down process for rolling out new AI features.
 
Fund/Build/Scale is sponsored by Mayfield and Securiti.

Episode 4 | Fundraising from both sides of the table with Jorge Torres (CEO/co-founder, MindsDB) and Vijay Reddy (AI Start investor, Mayfield)

Jorge Torres (CEO, co-founder, MindsDB) and Vijay Reddy (AI Start investor, Mayfield) were the first two people I interviewed for Fund/Build/Scale. 
 
We met up at Jorge's office in San Francisco's Mission District on a rainy Friday afternoon in November 2023. We spent time discussing the ins and outs of pitch tactics and investor outreach, but we also talked about the criteria VCs use to evaluate zero-day investments, which red flags investors and founders both need to look out for, and how to find a VC to partner with for the next decade (not just the next funding round). 
 
Jorge has been through the fundraising process three times and Vijay is an experienced seed investor, so I was glad to talk to them both about fundraising from both sides of the table.
 
Here's a breakdown of our conversation:
How Jorge and Vijay assess team quality (2:28)
Vijay: "We don't do spray-and-pray." (4:06)
Founders need to de-risk themselves before pitching (5:21)
Jorge's three key questions for early-stage teams (7:14)
Why you don't need a demo, customers or revenue to pitch (9:59)
Founder red flags that turn off investors (14:12)
How to recognize seed-stage investors who actually add value (15:55)
When it comes to accepting early funds, be strategic (18:43)
Don't focus on TAM, just find clear pain points in large markets (22:03)
"If you're close to something that makes sense... don't wait too long to show it to an investor."
(23:41)
How early-stage AI startups can avoid extinction-level events (25:44)
You can't build a strategic moat without real-world data (27:55)
Technical founders should team up with nontechnical co-founders (29:56)
Closing a seed round: how long should it take? (31:32)
How much runway does an AI startup need? (34:05)
 
Links:
Jorge Torres, CEO, co-founder, MindsDB
Vijay Reddy, AI Start investor, Mayfield
MindsDB AI Collective, San Francisco, CA
Mayfield AI Start Seed Fund
aistart@mayfield.com
 
Fund/Build/Scale is sponsored by Mayfield and Securiti.

Episode 3 | Tapping into the AI Developer Community with Ozzy Johnson (Director of Solutions Engineering, NVIDIA)

I wanted to learn more about how inception-stage AI founders can tap into developer ecosystems, so I spoke to Ozzy Johnson, Director of Solutions Engineering for NVIDIA Developer Programs.
In his role, he leads a global product team that accelerates its own work by interacting with outside developers who use the company’s technology. Johnson also works with NVIDIA’s Inception program, a virtual accelerator for AI and deep-learning startups.
“It's kind of necessary to know the shape of the world to have a sense of where things are headed,” he said.
“We ideally want to see around corners, we want to try to get there first, or at least, meet developers where they are.”
Here’s what we talked about:
Why more AI founders should focus on fundamentals (1:50)
How AI is leveling the playing field for non-technical founders (4:28)
How to (and not to) recruit talent from the developer community (7:26)
The dangers of digging your moat too early (9:41)
Finding scalable problems customers want solved (11:30)
Prioritize early spending on "saleable differentiation" (14:36)
Top traits of successful AI founders (17:21)
Benefits of NVIDIA’s Inception program (22:11)
Balancing customer feature requests with roadmap control (25:21)
Why the rise of Gen AI is a transformational moment (28:21)
Ozzy’s advice for anyone interviewing at an AI startup (31:36)
Thanks for listening!
Fund/Build/Scale on LinkedInFund/Build/Scale on Substack

Episode 2 | Digging Your Moat: Customer Discovery + PLG for AI Startups with guest Rodrigo Liang (CEO/co-founder, SambaNova)

Idea-stage investors are still excited about AI, but the savvier ones are looking for social proof and tangible takeaways from the customer discovery process. Before they commit, these investors are seeking evidence that the idea/team they’re considering won’t melt like snow in the rain the next time a major player improves their model.
With that in mind, I interviewed Rodrigo Liang, co-founder and CEO of SambaNova Systems, for Episode 2. Launched in 2017, SambaNova raised more than a billion dollars in its first three years to create a full-stack LLM platform.
Our conversation covered a lot of ground, including his thoughts on product-led growth strategy for AI startups and the importance of aligning the needs of customers with the technology you’re developing.
Here’s a breakdown:
SambaNova's founding, market dynamics, and early product development (1:22)
AI in enterprise environments, developing an ideal customer profile (4:23)
how to ID different customer classes (6:47)
developing a cohesive marketing strategy from Day 1 (10:09)
keeping product development aligned with the needs of your customer (14:11)
the pitfalls (and payoffs) of creating a feature for a single customer (17:13)
customer transparency: can you/should you share your product roadmap? (20:28)
overcoming AI adoption challenges and controlling costs (24:24)
understand your customer's journey to deliver value quickly (28:21)
"we really are focused on getting those quick proofs of success” (30:09)
Rodrigo's advice for early-stage AI startup employees (35:45)
early-stage fundraising should be about milestones, not runway (38:17)
Fund/Build/Scale is sponsored by Mayfield. If you have a fundable idea for an AI-first startup at the cognitive plumbing layer, email aistart@mayfield.com.
The podcast is also sponsored by Securiti, pioneer of the Data Command Center.
Follow Fund/Build/Scale on Substack and LinkedIn.
 

Episode 1 | Building Trust with Your Inception Investor with guest Navin Chaddha (Managing Partner, Mayfield)

In the first episode of Fund/Build/Scale, Mayfield Managing Partner Navin Chaddha spoke about the need for founders to identify investors they can trust, how to pitch Mayfield's AI Start seed fund, and why he’s specifically looking for inception-stage entrepreneurs who have “half-baked” ideas.
Our conversation covered a lot of ground: Navin described the elements of a fundable idea, shared what excites (and unnerves) him about AI investing, and offered a framework for founder teams seeking solutions to orthogonal problems that create value for customers and align with market trends.
Here’s an episode rundown:
1:07: AI investing and entrepreneurship
7:56: fundraising, enterprise opportunities and success metrics
17:27 the biggest challenges facing AI investors
19:11: what strong founder teams look like
22:10: leveraging inception-stage investors
26:47: why idea-stage founders shouldn't worry about revenue
31:36: pitfalls/opportunities at the enterprise level
34:25: the "impedance mismatch" between startups + enterprise customers
38:22: societal change + responsible innovation
42:48: how he educates himself about emerging tech
Coming up in Episode 2:
I spoke with Rodrigo Liang, CEO and co-founder of SambaNova, about digging a moat, customer discovery, and product-led growth.
Please subscribe to Fund/Build/Scale on your favorite platform, and if you liked this episode, I hope you’ll give me a great rating. 
For now, you can find the Fund/Build/Scale newsletter on Substack. The podcast theme was written and performed by Michael Tritter and Carlos Chairez. Michael also edited the podcast and provided additional music, and I’m deeply grateful.
Thanks for listening!
 
Links:
Fund/Build/Scale on Substack: https://fundbuildscale.substack.com
Mayfield: https://www.mayfield.com
Navin Chaddha on LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/navinchaddha/
Securiti: https://securiti.ai/
Cognitive plumbing: https://www.mayfield.com/cognitive-plumbing/
Impedance matching: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_matching
Jensen Huang, founder and CEO, NVIDIA: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenhsunhuang/
Satya Nadella, chairman and CEO, Microsoft: https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyanadella/
Thomas Kurian, CEO Google Cloud: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-kurian-469b6219/
NVIDIA: https://www.nvidia.com 
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
"Trough of disillusionment,” Gartner hype cycle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner_hype_cycle
SambaNova Systems: https://sambanova.ai/
Podcast theme: "Artificio," by Michael Tritter and Carlos Chairez: https://laroda.bandcamp.com/track/artificio
Fund/Build/Scale is sponsored by Mayfield Fund and Securiti.

Welcome to Fund/Build/Scale

Hi. I’m Walter Thompson. 
I worked in startups for years before becoming a journalist. 
Now, I’m launching “Fund/Build/Scale,” a podcast that explains how to create an AI startup when all you have is an idea.
If you’re seeking general thought leadership or predictions about AI, this is not the podcast for you. Guests on “Fund/Build/Scale” are sharing strategies and frameworks that listeners can adapt and use inside their own companies.
We’re discussing the ins and outs of fundraising, product development, regulation, going to market, and other essential topics. Across ten episodes, you’ll gain an insider’s perspective on what it takes to build an ethically responsible company in one of tech’s most competitive and rapidly evolving sectors.
Entrepreneurs, VCs, academics, policy experts, enterprise software buyers and others will share their thoughts on addressing technical challenges, building teams, breaking into corporate sales and other core issues AI startups grapple with.
I hope you’ll join this ongoing conversation about the intersection of AI innovation and investment. Subscribe now — the podcast will be available on all major platforms, with the first episode launching in February 2024.